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    lg0: If you want to mess with yggdrasil lmk, you can peer with my server
  17. over i2p or clearnet
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  24. Feel free to WG to me and it will connect you to ygg
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  53. Already implemented in nixos. Can use trezor as disk decrypt key
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    ok thats kool
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    My os does that
  57. Just saying lol
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  139. ^ compute in memory
  140. Fpga?
  142. Woah
  143. ^ shell scripts as DAG
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  146. Experiment with Fpga antikernel
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    lg0 read this
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    lg0: check that ^
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    Looks like blockchain trash at first glance
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    git-ssb's permissionless model has an interesting consequence: anybody can push to anybody else's git repository.

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  166. https://github.com/huginn/huginn
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  199. TOTO: ^ Look for implementations of this
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  209. https://github.com/gundb/interop looks empty but saving for later
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  218. Not sure it adds anything over searx
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    https://photoprism.app/
  224. https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism
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  244. https://github.com/Aloxaf/fzf-tab
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    https://github.com/geerlingguy/internet-pi -- just pi-hole and grafana but probably worth keeping an eye on
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    https://github.com/staniel359/muffon -- try this tmw when you're awake
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  255. ^ NEAT
  256. use wayland to route camera vid through that?
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  264. https://github.com/kalbhor/MusicTools
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    Manually configured Overlay nets: DN42 - https://dn42.dev/ NeoNetwork - https://github.com/NeoCloud/NeoNetwork ChaosVPN - https://wiki.hamburg.ccc.de/ChaosVPN
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    How you like that?
  274. lg0
    somewhat interestin.g
  275. I am trying to get work to look into moving to object storage.
  276. I have fillers that have 200 million files on them.
  277. metadata nightmare
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  279. ouch
  280. s3 and chill, gonna big budget that shit
  281. lg0
    been trying to steer them into object based storage. that way I can arbitrage the vendors.
  282. 2 billion objects in an object store is no big deal.
  283. a good storage system can use spinning rust at the speeds we need.
  284. just got to cache the metadata
  285. was thinking of using something like 12 x 12 hdd nodes for storage and 3x 2tb ram for hte metadata
  286. should be about 0.8PB of usable storage.
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  296. Not sure if you've seen but nixos will tell you the packages that have any missing commands
  297. 1$ lspci The program 'lspci' is not in your PATH. It is provided by several packages. You can make it available in an ephemeral shell by typing one of the following: nix-shell -p busybox nix-shell -p pciutils nix-shell -p toybox
  298. So comma will let you , lspci
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    Like sudo but for uninstalled stuff
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    https://cooklang.org/ bb
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    https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostr <-- well designed
  314. Matches my thought process almost completely
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  327. The best part of Charm accounts is that both you and your users don’t need to think about them. Charm authentication is based on SSH keys, so account creation and authentication is built into all Charm tools and is invisible and frictionless.

    If a user already has Charm keys, we authenticate with them. If not, we create new ones. Users can also easily link multiple machines to their account, and linked machines will seamlessly gain access to their owners Charm data. Of course, users can revoke machines’ access too.

    Sounds like some permacomputer shit to me @fxhp:matrix.org

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    https://github.com/publiusfederalist/federalist handshake boo
  331. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I was looking at "federalist" this morning. That's similar to what I was dreaming of.
  332. Might be overkill for version 1 but yup! That looks so cool. 😎
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  334. The webtorrent is nice, though.
  335. Have you messedwith yggdrasil?
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    Linked from federalist: https://github.com/lmatteis/dmt
  338. 123456$ ./bin/cmd.js --help

- mutable torrents commands:
  keypair                                         Create new public-private keypair
  publish <public-key> <private-key> <info-hash>  Publish new torrent
  consume <public-key>                            Downloads mutable torrent
  339. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that ux. 3 commands, one read one write.
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    https://github.com/hyprspace/hyprspace <-- p2p VPN built on IPFS
  341. terrifying, but sounds really neat
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    https://github.com/fatedier/frp < needs nixos module
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    I need to brush up on my COMPUTING SCIENCE to grok how a bittorrent could be mutable.
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    Not yet.
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    It's probably a good base network stack from here on out
  346. everyone gets a public ipv6 address, no firewalls no rent seekers
  347. Not strictly anonymous, but it should be high speed enough to put the anon protocols on top
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  351. Free blogpost and course, I don't have a need for this now but if I did need better search I think I'd try to build it in-house
  352. I read it, forked some but the code is really easy to follow starts at 10 minutes.
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    https://github.com/root-gg/plik https://plik.root.gg/#/ Dead simple file upload. There's a bunch of these, but this one has a really nice feature set that provides the uploader with a lot of control
  354. Let's see how easy that is to run
  355. You can choose to log in to manage uploads. sqlite3 or postgres backend
  356. Admin page for uploaded files. you get QR, delete, direct link, can delete files
  357. This feature lets whoever is viewing it delete it when they are done with it
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  359. see that.
  360. neat
  361. I like it.
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  363. I think this is a winner.
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    I have one live at https://upload.kernelpanic.cafe/
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    https://github.com/xxh/xxh <-- look at tmw when awake
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    https://picocss.com/ no js, but 8k css
  368. Terminal opinions lg0 @fxhp:matrix.org?
  369. I use konsole for easy mouse wheel resizing, but haven't really put much thought into them. Is there anything significantly different or better for going forward?
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  371. https://github.com/garywill/linux-router unusable except as inspiration
  373. Record label that does full DB dumps of their artists/music
  374. all as DRM free mp3s. sharing explicitly allowed. $300 one time payment
  375. I dig it.
  376. that DB tho...
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    https://tqdm.github.io/ can be piped into
  378. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29582437 other links to investigate in the comments
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    https://github.com/karpathy/arxiv-sanity-preserver <-- build nixos module
  383. Interesting ideas
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    @fxhp:matrix.org Look at peertube?
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    Re: your post in #permaculture:matrix.org
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    I've looked at lots of things over the years not recently though.
  388. I think my design is better.

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    Different. I doubt yours has p2p/torrents and multi-user?
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  393. lg0 @fxhp:matrix.org One of the goals in my OS is having audio/video shims that will insert adversarial but undetectable changes to the AV stream to give you some defense against AI by default
  394. I don't think anyone else is doing anything remotely similar
  395. I posted a ton of docs/papers on adversarial examples before you joined @fxhp:matrix.org
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  400. I gotta stand up a gitlab instance and then open the source today for the release tomorrow.
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    This is like 10 years in the making. Nervous but also ready.
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    If you load up nixos on a computer you could have a gitea instance in one command httpa://gitea.kernwlpanic.cafe
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    @fxhp:matrix.org Have you seen isso? https://posativ.org/isso/
  404. Its been on my list to try out
  405. How's that compare to remarkbox?
  406. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Remarkbox is better
  407. * @fxhp:matrix.org grins
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    https://github.com/binwiederhier/ntfy application 9001 in this category
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    https://github.com/donnemartin/system-design-primer <- mostly silicon valley type large scale trash, but there might be knowledge to be gleaned. lg0 you'll like this one lol
  414. We need a term for that. Neo-enterprise?
  415. Also lg0 cable if @fxhp:matrix.org Offers you coolaid don't drink it.
  416. Since I tagged all three of you anyway, I'm ready to start open sourcing this is soon. What kind of hardware do y'all have available?
  417. I have three profiles so far. Desktop, media center, and server. But I'm gonna merge the last two soon and just add a headless flag
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  420. @fxhp:matrix.org
    coolaid
  421. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I have various IBM & Lenovo ThinkPad of various vintage.
  422. I have HP servers
  423. I have Dell servers
  424. Dell desktops
  425. Some low powered Atom processors
  426. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I also have a budget for exploring
  427. Okay so you have hardware for days like lg0. I think all cable has is a raspi and maybe a VM on a gaming computer
  428. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Do you have a test process for verifying hardware yet?
  429. Spreadsheet might be good enough
  430. I'm taking serious look at picocss.com
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    Been wanting to. Lmk how you like it.
  432. It's still very early stages, the hardware landscape will change as it solidifies. I've got big plans.
  433. NixOS is kinda unusable for normies still, every install will need an IT capable person for now. Empower devs > empower IT > empower users in that order. Somehow most things miss the middle group.
  434. Running a home server is difficult. Running a dozen nixos servers for family/friends is easy.
  435. I would like to sell hardcopy docs/cheatsheet though. A few keyboard shortcuts goes a really long way

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    RE: this: I am aware that this sounds bad. Don't worry the time will come when that will be the focus, but there's currently too much low-hanging fruit to worry about optimization for users that don't exist yet.
  437. For example I think I cracked the code on websites
  438. Alfis for DNS, ygg for networking.
  439. Pelican for static site generation from markdown, with a filesystem monitor to rebuild and deploy on changes
  440. I can tolerate other static site generators too.
  441. But I think artisan HTML/CSS with picocss might be my new favorite.
  442. I'm switching www.unturf.com from bootstrap to picocss and I'm thinking about testing it inside Make Post Sell since it has an HTML5 CSS Grid layout, I'd like to see the interplay
  443. Make Post Sell is all by hand CSS
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    I want to avoid having to write HTML/CSS but have it be a first class citizen
  445. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Yeah, that's sorta what picocss is doing
  446. As far as the CSS is concerned.
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    Normies seem to do fine with MD/pelican based on my testing with a few family members and friends
  448. The rest of website deployment less so, but I can automate that
  449. @fxhp:matrix.org
    My wife does Wordpress (I'm her admin), I bet she could switch if I taught her how to make themes.
  450. especially if the themes were driven by some YAML
  451. and a dash of HTML/CSS just for the last bits of customization
  452. speaking of automation, have you taken another look at gitlab?
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    No. I used to host it at my last job but its been a couple years
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    familiar with gitlab-ci.yml
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    I didn't do much ci
  457. Jury is still out on CI for me
  458. At least CI as part of gitlab or similar
  459. I like the ideas behind it, but that's a lot of heavy lifting to get there
  460. And I'm not sure how much of that can be automated
  461. @fxhp:matrix.org
    All of it.
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    Nixos itself should be able to do a lot of the CI stuff but statelessly?
  463. I have every host's filesystem mounted as an sshfs inside the nixos config directory right now, something that simple opens up a ton of doors
  464. Right now I'm automating building the automations
  465. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I follow docs.
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  467. @fxhp:matrix.org
    make docs 🚎
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    No point documenting a quick experiment that goes in the trash.
  469. I see a clear path forward right now, so I'm trying to see how the existing FOS(S/H) stuff fits in
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    I'm afraid of your /dev/null
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  472. I'm dogfooding everything right now
  473. Colmena is managing 8 hosts rn I think

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    nixos-rebuild switch
  475. Who puts make in their environment anymore?
  476. It must be simple
  477. If I switch to a directory that has a make file, make gets loaded automatically. What more do I need?
  478. And nixos runs make on any rebuild that needs it anyway so for non-dev use you're free and clear of that garbage fire
  479. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Are you familiar with MVP process?
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  481. Yeah
  482. @fxhp:matrix.org
    the masses have contorted into a state without focus, so less is more when you first hand them a tool or toy.
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    With users comes catering to users. That's not a bad thing and in fact is exactly what needs to happen. But if they are using it before they know what they are using (if they don't understand the vision) it could easily lead to the project failing or morphing into something different
  484. There's a few steps before 'the masses'
  485. @fxhp:matrix.org
    The only step is open sourcing.
  486. I have my own reservations too
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    1: a few people that 'get jt' or just family/friends that I push this shit on.
    2: devs
    3: IT folks
    4: masses

  488. In reply to this message

    Porting to devos is my path to open sourcing. That is a clear way to audit each service on its way out.
  489. @fxhp:matrix.org
    They don't need to know that you are shipping them the whole rocket ship and fabrication lab, they just need a stable online presence and some docs.
  490. Chinchilla Washington
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    1000000% yeah
  491. @fxhp:matrix.org
    and a solution to a problem.
  492. Chinchilla Washington
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    We're in agreement I think
  493. @fxhp:matrix.org
    MVP
  494. Chinchilla Washington
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    But right now I'm the only user and I'm solving real problems for me while researching the whole space
  495. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Do you want to be a lone wolf forever?
  496. Chinchilla Washington
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    Don't worry I'm getting there :)
  497. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Careful about the word user.
  498. Chinchilla Washington
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    Open sourcing is roughly on schedule
  499. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I don't want users.
  500. I want developers, engineers, tinkerers, hackers, phreakers, but never users.
  501. Chinchilla Washington
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    For some thongs there is a right way and for others it's less clear. I think I have a good answer for "a stable.online presence"
  502. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I want moms and dads
  503. users are addicts.
  504. Chinchilla Washington
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    Yeah we're in agreement
  505. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Ok, so MVP has many meanings.
  506. Chinchilla Washington
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    I'm not interested in dumbing anything down. I am interested in simplifying and empowering
  507. @fxhp:matrix.org
    You matched an important one.
  508. another one is "Minimum Viable Problem"
  509. You do not have addicts, you have moms and dads who don't mind tinkering as long as there are some docs.
  510. what are their problems? Find the dumbest thing and make that the idea that goes on the rocket ship.
  511. Chinchilla Washington
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    See this?
  512. I am a dad
  513. Chinchilla Washington
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    An appropriate level is between tinkering and hacking. They should understand the system but not have to do engine swaps
  514. @fxhp:matrix.org
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  515. @fxhp:matrix.org
    give them default with that one thing.
  516. and swap out that one thing for each n+1 you run into.
  517. Chinchilla Washington
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    I'm building this for my daughter
  518. I don't want her to grow up in this digital distopia
  519. No offence, but everyone else is secondary.
  520. That also means I must make it so She's not alone using it.
  521. @fxhp:matrix.org
    How can you play test before hand?
  522. You know how long it takes me to play test garden experiments?
  523. (yearly cycles)
  524. Chinchilla Washington
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    I have a couple family members using it for websites and spinning up another today
  525. @fxhp:matrix.org
    what about the people in this room, could we play test something small and dumb?
  526. Chinchilla Washington
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    1000%
  527. But you follow docs
  528. Lmao
  529. @fxhp:matrix.org
    my kids follow docs, 4 yo daughter.
  530. Chinchilla Washington
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    If you want to put nixos on a system I'm happy to share any works in progress too, but no docs yet
  531. Most of my modules are simple and fit on a single screen though.
  532. @fxhp:matrix.org
    have you stolen docs before?
  533. Chinchilla Washington
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    Know how long it takes me to test major changes? A couple of minutes with a free rollback if I don't like it.

  534. In reply to this message

    Nope
  535. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Just make a bulleted list of other docs I should follow
  536. if order matters use numbers
  537. Then, you tell me to write you the docs.
  538. and I say ok.
  539. Chinchilla Washington
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    Works for me
  540. Chinchilla Washington
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    Re: this: y'all can play with it all. I'm not hiding any of it or 'until its ready' or any dumb shit like that.

    My requirements for open sourcing have always been
    1: public git instance
    2: remove secrets

    I have pushed a few of my modules upstream and shared others via matrix, but just not open sources anything pretending to be part of something bigger

  541. And I'm right on track for that. I was hoping by new years but some stuff came up. Really I just need a few solid hours and I'll be g2g
  542. A few solid hours is always the tough but though
  543. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Can't rush art
  544. Chinchilla Washington
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    A lot of it is experiments from when I was still really new to nixos
  545. That worked shockingly well but are unfit for wider release
  546. So some refactoring is necessary
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  548. Chinchilla Washington
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    But it's all modular enough that I can comfortably release it one module at a time as I work on them.
  549. At my last job I was building something similar but of the silicon valley 'we want control' mindset.
  550. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    Thanks mate
  551. Bachelors of Science
  552. Chinchilla Washington
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    Degree in gender studies or African studies?
  553. @fxhp:matrix.org Check out CRXN for Tristan's project
  554. I've got an optics/lenses/lasers guy that's convinced that home IC fab shouldn't be too hard either
  555. And apparently he's not in here
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    To borrow from Python, I'm aiming for 'batteries included' and not 'everything but the kitchen sink'
  558. Y'all are getting dropped right in the middle of this, despite appearing very early stage (and no docs, lol)
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    Re: hardware. I'd like to target the raspberry pi, but I'm aware that it's too anemic for a lot of stuff even when solo (gitlab, matrix is iffy).
  560. But I'm designing this to scale horizontally very well, so as a cohesive system it should run just as well as a bunch of small systems as a single big one.
  561. What I've been telling people is that it runs off any old laptops you might have lying around
  564. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://omar.website/tabfs/ check this out
  566. @fxhp:matrix.org
    It's like /proc for tabs.
  567. Chinchilla Washington
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    YO IS THAT NOT COOL AS SHIT?
  569. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    No, this is fucking hilarious
  570. I can see the allure
  571. it's actually usefuk for scripting
  572. Chinchilla Washington
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    I hate webshit probably more than the next guy.
  573. But that's fantastic
  574. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    Agreed
  575. Chinchilla Washington
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    You have any extra computers?
  576. Or am I gonna route all the crxn stuff through your cantenna?
  577. ...three times
  578. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Need me to drop ship gear?
  579. * @fxhp:matrix.org grins
  580. I don't think I need /proc for tabs but I'm glad it exists.
  581. But I agree, in order to move forward, we will like go "back to the future"
  582. A /proc for all the things or sensors a cool idea.
  585. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://cobox.cloud/
  586. Been thinking about doing something similar with port knocking
  587. Looks like it might be "cloud" bllshit
  588. Must check tnw
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  592. Chinchilla Washington
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    Your best bet is to just use WordPress.
  593. hehehehhe
  594. But, yup. I remember following some hak5 tutorial that would print and TTS you an update every morning from your feeds
  595. That was my clock radio
  596. Now I can't operate anything without some app or browser or tracking-image or font trying to send homing beacons to the mothership
  598. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I feel like we are playing MTG and these are new/old cards with new/old mechanics and we are allowed to play any card we want. Gotta find those sick combos.

  599. In reply to this message

    does it also run is server mode to serve directories over https?
  600. or do I have to sudo python3 -m http.server 80 when I gain root?
  601. Chinchilla Washington
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    YES exactly
  602. Fuse filesystems will be a force multiplier

  603. In reply to this message

    Idk, but with a good overlay network and things like that tool and sshfs, I can see a Renaissance of direct file sharing again.
  604. The web is too heavy under it's own weight
  605. Files are lightweight
  606. And unlike decade(s) ago, we are absolutely spoiled for choice with free software
  607. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Have you all tested this yet? https://syncthing.net/
  608. Chinchilla Washington
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    I use syncthing
  609. @fxhp:matrix.org
    It makes phones fun again.
  610. Mine isn't configured right now
  611. I keep breaking phones
  612. @fxhp:matrix.org
    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/HTML/Introduction_to_HTML/The_head_metadata_in_HTML reading this now, going to try to make Element unfurl links to content on Make Post Sell look better. 🤞
  613. https://api.slack.com/reference/messaging/link-unfurling#classic_unfurl related - trying to gather up the meta data tags in use and try to find the lowest common denominator.
  614. @fxhp:matrix.org
    I think I'm going to try to implement these tags and see how that looks as a first pass: https://pad.yohdah.com/844/og-link-unfurling-everything-you-need-to-know/raw
  615. Chinchilla Washington
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    Gettr?
  617. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://anti-captcha.com/
  618. Meh, but probably worth saving
  619. This is a list of classless CSS themes and frameworks. "Classless" means a style sheet does not define special classes you must add to your HTML elements to style these elements. As a result, you can style any plain-HTML page just by linking to the style sheet.
  620. @fxhp:matrix.org
    https://picocss.com/ not listed but I'd figure I'd re-post since I got it working on www.unturf.com
  621. Chinchilla Washington
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    I thought it was listed there?
  622. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Yup
  623. Missed it
  624. This is a quick drop-in CSS switcher to allow for previewing some of the many minimal CSS-only frameworks that are available. See the demo or drop the switcher into your own page to see how different frameworks would look together with your content.
  625. @fxhp:matrix.org
    oh... well of course.
  626. <script src="https://dohliam.github.io/dropin-minimal-css/switcher.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
  627. I'm going to flag it on and see what it does
  628. Nake HTML is going to be in "style" again!
  629. Chinchilla Washington
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    I hope so!
  630. I looked at html for the first time in a while and couldn't believe how many tags there were nowadays
  631. @fxhp:matrix.org
    so many tags still unsure which to use.
  632. click hard refresh and use the s button to switch
  633. It's currently stacking with pico css
  634. Chinchilla Washington
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    I like that
  635. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Attr-dark-forest-gree CSS
  636. Not sure why it breaks my lol
  637. Chinchilla Washington
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    That could be a user script tbh
  638. @fxhp:matrix.org
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  640. Chinchilla Washington
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    DERETED
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  642. working now
  643. Chinchilla Washington
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    Holy shit

  644. If a person is tried in a criminal case, they have the right to audit the source code of any proprietary software that collects evidence against them

  645. That alone will almost entirely shield NH residents from prosecution, because they will never want to give up the goods.
  646. Chinchilla Washington
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    But then again national security is like the konami code.
  647. @fxhp:matrix.org
    Hn thread 🗑 🔥
  648. I might go there and film.
  649. Chinchilla Washington
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    Most of them are
  650. Chinchilla Washington
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    I need to look into alternate interfaces for hn. All I want from it are fos(s/h) projects
  651. The comments sections on those are usually circlejerks about other projects, but a good source of links
  652. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Glider for Hacker News (Glider is an opinionated Hacker News client. Ad-free, open-source, no-nonsense.) - https://f-droid.org/packages/nl.viter.glider
  653. Materialistic (Interact with the "Hacker news" site) - https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialistic
  654. Chinchilla Washington
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    I assume you use hn.el on pc?
  655. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    I probably should if it exists. But actually I just use userstyles with the website.
  656. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Hmm.
  658. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://github.com/antonmedv/fx nodejs boo. But it looks nice
  659. Chinchilla Washington
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    I don't know if y'all know about teal deer (https://github.com/dbrgn/tealdeer) but it's highly recommended
  660. Yo that looks really nice.

  661. Has a simple curl/browser/editor interface.

    Covers 56 programming languages, several DBMSes, and more than 1000 most important UNIX/Linux commands.

    Provides access to the best community driven cheat sheets repositories in the world, on par with StackOverflow.

    Available everywhere, no installation needed, but can be installed for offline usage.

    Ultrafast, returns answers within 100 ms, as a rule.

    Has a convenient command line client, cht.sh, that is very advantageous and helpful, though not mandatory.

    Can be used directly from code editors, without opening a browser and not switching your mental context.

  662. @fxhp:matrix.org
    https://cheat.sh/tar
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    Not sure if y'all have seen but https://github.com/benbusby/farside
  669. checks public instances of alternate frontends like invidious/nitter/teddit every 5 minutes to make sure they are working, and will redirect links to live instances to help load-balance and keep links working
  670. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Huh.
  671. Avatar
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    https://booksonic.org/
  675. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://woob.tech/
  676. This is an interesting one.
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    Forgot the sauce https://gitlab.com/woob/woob
  679. @fxhp:matrix.org changed their profile picture
  680. unturf. changed their display name to fxhp
  681. fxhp changed their display name to j3ckle
  682. @fxhp:matrix.org changed their profile picture
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  686. * @fxhp:matrix.org fades
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  694. https://github.com/berty/berty
  696. this is the IT equivalent of police using an MRAP to no-knock raid an unpaid speeding ticket.
  697. ...so lg0 would love it.
  698. At the end of the day it's 4x computers and a bunch of VC money to make the world's most delicate "fully automated" tech stack.
  699. Chinchilla Washington
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    I do a lot more with a lot less.
  700. Chinchilla Washington
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    It’s a good habit to always use tools like terraform for cloud or Ansible/Salt/Puppet for machines instead of directly doing something.

  701. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Neat, but that seems basically like finger+.project to me.
  702. Chinchilla Washington
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  703. Weak, imo. Plain text can link anything.
  704. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    I kinda like JsON
  705. Should I implement this?
  706. I could do it on D
  707. Lmao
  708. Chinchilla Washington
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    Do it
  709. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    Hell yeah
  710. Chinchilla Washington
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    Neula
  711. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    Will write it up tomorrow
  712. Nelua. Eh, I looked at it some more and I am not a fan:(
  713. Here a log of all the stuff I have been doing with Pascal though
  714. Chinchilla Washington
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    NodeJS+Docker
  715. Chinchilla Washington
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    or don't even bother
  716. pascal O.o
  717. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    Yes
  718. I love old languages
  719. Chinchilla Washington
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    J or gtfo
  720. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    I'm an x86 asm, C and Pascal type of guy

  721. In reply to this message

    J?
  722. Check the last post on that thread I sent
  723. The video
  724. Chinchilla Washington
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    I'm reading it now
  725. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    Did some epic memory management there
  726. Chinchilla Washington
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    jsoftware.com
  727. APL but fits on an actual keyboard not a selectric
  728. Wow, it's still being developed
  729. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    God J is scaring me
  730. I was speaking to a friend about APL
  731. Chinchilla Washington
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    I saw a post on r/dailyprogrammer or somewhere similar where someone implemented a game of battleship in ~20 characters of J
  732. Tristan B. Kildaire
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    I should bring this to him
  733. Chinchilla Washington
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    or something like that
  734. Tristan B. Kildaire
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  735. Good book for systems dev
  736. Sorry only photo I could find
  737. Chinchilla Washington
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    STRUCTURED COM ORGANIZATIO
  738. sounds italian

  739. In reply to this message

    Matrix channel is #fmrl:libera.chat if you do.
  740. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7033 webfinger rfc. Yeah that's a bit much

  741. In reply to this message

    I didn't realize finger read from .pgpkey too
  742. Is there a standard format/structure to .plan or .project? It's not the easiest to dig this stuff up
  743. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Not all that structured. https://kb.iu.edu/d/afky
  744. Are non-ascii utf8 usernames legal in Linux? What about BSDs?
  745. Chinchilla Washington
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    ... I hope not
  746. Looks like it
  747. /etc/passwd is ASCII
  748. BSD and linux
  749. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Hmm.
  750. NAME_REGEX="^[a-z][-a-z0-9]*\$"
  751. 123adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured
via the NAME_REGEX configuration variable.  Use the `--force-badname'
option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
  752. So it seems like the answer is a clear-as-mud "maybe"
  753. An Inhabitant of Carcosa
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    Ah. So effectively finger usernames are just as restrictive as fmrl usernames.
  754. POSIX allows any ASCII letter, numeral, or .-_
  755. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://b3n.org/automatic-ripping-machine/ I love this.
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    I couldn't follow that
  757. But I've been sick as hell for a couple weeks.
  758. Worst food poisioning of my life killed my immune system enough for me to get whatever's going around now.
  759. Chinchilla Washington
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    That's light on the details but says both files should only be one line?
  760. Other than that it's freeform?
  761. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://github.com/cblgh/trustnet This is interesting
  763. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox
  764. CLI and webui

  765. You can feed it URLs one at a time, or schedule regular imports from browser bookmarks or history, feeds like RSS, bookmark services like Pocket/Pinboard, and more. See input formats for a full list.

  766. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://github.com/cblgh/lieu "neighborhood" search engine for webrings and smolweb
  767. that user has a ton of interesting stuff.
  768. https://github.com/cblgh/paperslip Like a DHT version of MQTT, kinda.
  769. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://github.com/yourduskquibbles/webannoyances <-- ublock origin filter list to unsuck a lot of websites.
  770. Chinchilla Washington
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    https://github.com/cblgh/monotome <-- look into using this to build docs for installed software as an editable notebook.
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    Been playing with this, it's really nice.
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  774. You can back up any/all of those output formats. It can even archive the page externally to archive.org
  775. Clicking any of those shows it under the pink bit instead of opening a new window, but clicking the red filename will open that resource directly.